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No code has yet been written.[0m [1;34m<[0mabi[1;34m>[0m okay, hcf.[0m 07:20am [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m coreyr.[0m [1;31m-[0m[1;37m:[1;31m-[0m [1;36mlar1 [1;30m[[0;36mlarman@adsl-63-203-73-43.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net[1;30m][0m has joined #tunes[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m iiiiha![0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Is that a karate move?[0m [1;31m-[0m[1;37m:[1;31m-[0m [1;36msmklsmkl [1;30m[[0;36msami@ppp54.dial-in.verkkotieto.fi[1;30m][0m has joined #tunes[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m mabe - initially it was a cowboy thing[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Usually associated with some excitement.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m now that you mention it, I am quite excited[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Is it something you want to share?[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m i don't know quite how to put it[0m 07:30am [1;31m-[0m[1;37m:[1;31m-[0m [0mSignOff [1;37mthomas[0m: #TUNES [1;30m([0mRead error to thomas[193.217.63.159]: Connection reset by peer[1;30m)[0m [1;31m-[0m[1;37m:[1;31m-[0m [1;36mthomas [1;30m[[0;36mthomas@193.217.63.159[1;30m][0m has joined #tunes[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m a> but how does it work?!?[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m b> how do you work?[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m a> ?[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m b> by NOT terminating![0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m if that ever mad sence :D[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m ( made )[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m We could start with what you mean by "it".[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m it should refere to some thing[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Yes, but I don't have a specific reference.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m well, it is not a specific thing[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m It's a general question?[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m yes, but people often disagree, because they have a very specific/formal/incomplete understanding of the term "terminate"[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m ( disagree that it is correct - meaning that it is utter nonsence )[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Sounds similar to homeostasis.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m homeostasis?[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m The body's means of maintaining a range of balances to remain alive.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m ( faggots in a gellypool ? :D)[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m yeah, that could be it[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m It's a medical terms. Adopted by H. Ross Ashby in his "Design for a Brain" relating to his mechanical-chemical-electrical machine, the homeostat.[0m 07:40am [1;31m-[0m[1;37m:[1;31m-[0m Topic [1;30m([0;36m#tunes[1;30m):[0m changed by [0;36mhcf[1;30m:[0m TUNES: http://www.tunes.org/ || Slate: http://www.arrow.cx/slate-home.html || Slate Tutorial: http://diktuon.arrow.cx/list.php?ns=tutorial || Zope Review Database: http://zope.tunes.org/Review/[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m The ability or tendency of an organism or a cell to maintain internal equilibrium by adjusting its physiological processes.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m yeah, that is one example of a reflective mechansism - because you could say that equilibrium state initiates physiological change, simultatneously as the physiological change effects the equilibrium[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Ashby would disappoint you as he generally asserted that the organism has no choice.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m It couldn't help being what it was. Taken to extremes it would cease to exist.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m the mechanism IS the organism[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Basically.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m It is what it is.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m so it wants to do what it does[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m No.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m but it is generally difficult for an outsider - having the overview of the situation - to understand that this is so. Because it will see contradictions in behaviour.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m when you go to be at night, you know, and want to sleep and get up early because that is good for you.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Makes the observer's role more difficult.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m but in the morning you want to sleep more - because then that is good for you.[0m 07:50am [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Now, it seems to me, you are into a reflective mode.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m follow you instincts and an outsider will regard you as an idiot, because s/he sees the big picture and you don't[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m ( actually neighter of you seen any big picture - it's just that you see things differently ( "big picture" helped the example :) )[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m I don't know that I would agree with that. The role of communication is to merge the different world views so that both sides have an understanding, not necessarily an agreement, of each other.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m sure, but common understanding is based on different-understanding-of-same-situation and SAME CONCLUSION.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m ok, I misunderstood you![0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Yes, if two parties come to the same conclusion.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m You and I may disagree, but that should not interfere with my desire to understand you.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m If we both had the same assumptions and reached different conclusions, then we have a problem.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m One of logic.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m sure, but that could't happen could it?[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Henry Kissinger in his early days literally destroyed his opponents in political science because he understood their positions (and their implications) better than their advocates.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m One would hope that from the same set of assumptions we would reach the same conclusions.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m ( I'm putting this quite on the edge now - I know that two people with major common terminology could be said to have the same understanding of many terms in the terminology - but that is only because they defined based on other common terms.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m With Henry Kissinger it was not political science but foreign policy.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m It's very difficult and unlikely that any two people will have the same set of assumptions.[0m 08:00am [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m sure, it is impossible, unless they are the same person at the same time[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m It's only when you can isolate them into agreed-upon subsets, that logic can prevail.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m I should say usually or most likely instead of only.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m and that is where formal logic comes in - becuase even though we cannot isolate actual context independent facts, we can isolate the facts about facts - and they are simple[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Usually when we bring sets of facts within the realm of formal logic we will have agreement.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m as long as the facts and the situations/context for which they are true, have a formal defintion[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Agreed.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Back to the orginal question, "What excited you initially?"[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m that's a proof problem I guess - in that in order for a proof to be valid, the facts it is based on has to be valid, and sooner or later you will have to proove these facts[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m why did Alan Turing kill himself?[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m For that I have no answer.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m I just imagined that it may have been a story related to it[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m :)[0m 08:10am [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m There is also Hemingway and others. Apparently intelligence is no protector from self-destruction.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m A pencing swooped up onto its tip by everything and nothing - and for a slight moment it rests comftably on it is tip - only to fall over.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Is that a pencing or a pencil?[0m 08:20am [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m does a pencing have a tip? :)[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Well, it's your word. It can if you want it to.:-)[0m [1;31m-[0m[1;37m:[1;31m-[0m [0mSignOff [1;37msmklsmkl[0m: #TUNES [1;30m([0mbbl[1;30m)[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m from the outside world it may seem for a moment that the pencil has stopped - on its tip.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m but from the pencils view, its all just part of the big swoop[0m [1;31m-[0m[1;37m:[1;31m-[0m [0mSignOff [1;37mhcf[0m: #TUNES [1;30m([0mLeaving[1;30m)[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m It's probably relatively easy to reconcile both views.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m for you, mabe[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Maybe.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m If the pencil and I disagree on some points, I would expect we could come away with some understanding of each's position.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m That assumes that we both have an interest, not necessarily equal, in having an understanding of the other's views.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m ?[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m you can want to understand[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Yes.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m If you do, you suspend your assumptions where they differ.[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m You try to understand it from their perspective.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m you try to communicate![0m 08:30am [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m and you can never know whether you've failed or not![0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m You mean with the pencil?[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m ( it can however be argued that you do not care )[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m its just an example[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Failures to communicate unfortunately are too commonplace.[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m :)[0m [1;31m-[0m[1;37m:[1;31m-[0m [1;36mAlex[] [1;30m[[0;36muser@Caen-6-195.abo.wanadoo.fr[1;30m][0m has joined #tunes[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m I have to leave for now, but I do so hoping that we have achieved some sort of communication.:-)[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m we probably did[0m [1;34m<[0mthomas[1;34m>[0m bye[0m [1;34m<[0mlmaxson[1;34m>[0m Besides Turing, I believe, was a homosexual. 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